32. I Am with Jesus inside of God

[I apologize. I completely forgot to record this session.]

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I am with Jesus inside of God.

In essence, this statement of faith covers John 17:20-26, a total of seven verses. The full meaning of this short passage of Scripture remains beyond our present knowing, yet we see the outline of wonderous things. We live in these things through faith, yet, like the resurrection, there is a full experience yet to come that is beyond all measure. Also, please understand, that this statement of faith references something much more than what we have covered thus far, as incredible as that sounds.

So Much.
– Jesus, making Himself devoted so that we are devoted.
– Being with Jesus inside of the Father.
– Jesus bringing us into the fellowship enjoyed between the Father and the Son.
– The immense DESIRE that is Jesus WANTING us to be with Him to share His glory.
– The LOVE God has for Jesus separate from all creation being INSIDE of us!

There is so much in these verses that I hardly know how to introduce them. For that reason, let’s start with the statements of faith first.

The Statements of Faith. Although I just included Jesus making Himself devoted for our sakes, I have moved verses 17-19 to “Jesus Sends Me” because being devoted to God is part of being sent.

~ I am with Jesus where He is; I am with Jesus inside of the Father. I am one inside of the Father and the Son just as the Father and Son are one together. I am one in perfect harmony and completion. I am inside of the togetherness of Father and Son; I share in the fellowship of Father and Son. I am complete inside of the One True God. Through me, the world knows that God sent Jesus. ~

~ Jesus DESIRES me with all the passion of the universe. Jesus wants me to be with Him to share His glory. I see the glory of Jesus alive inside my heart. I know Jesus Sent; I know the Father’s name written upon my forehead and upon my heart of flesh. The Love of God for Jesus is inside of me; Jesus is inside of me. The Father loves me in just the same way that He loves Jesus. ~

Our Topics. This page has to be different. As I have pondered the things spoken here, I have no ability to “explain” the meanings found in these words of Jesus that birth the New Creation. Instead, all we can do is engage with God concerning His word, that is to place ourselves as BELIEVERS, that God is telling us the truth and then to allow God to be what He says in us as He wishes.

We will have just three boxes on the rest of this page, then, with the first being a Jesus Secret box, Jesus speaking His desire for you straight into you. Then we will speak back to God, first “Completion,” and then “Divine Fellowship.”

Be Aware and Believe. When I wrote the three chapters in Symmorphy III: Kingdom on Jesus’ prayer that birthed the Kingdom, John 17, my purpose was to become aware of all the things Jesus included in this prayer and how they might work together. Having become aware of the complexity of this prayer for six years now, I find a knowing in me of depths here beyond my present wisdom or ability.

I am convinced that the order of every line in this prayer has meaning inside the Kingdom as it unfolds through the Age of Tabernacles and beyond. But I can do little more now than believe that God is telling me the truth.

Jesus’ Expression of Desire. The Jesus Secret box will be from the second paragraph. Here are Jesus’ exact words in the Jesus Secret version.

Father, I desire that those whom You have given Me might be with Me where I am, that they might behold My glory which You gave Me, because You loved Me separate from the blueprint of the world-cosmos. Just and Innocent Father, although the world has not known You, I have known You and these have known that You sent Me. And I made known to them Your name and will make it known, that the love with which You loved Me might be inside of them, and I inside of them.

A Place Not Created. What we want is to have Jesus turn and speak these same things straight into us. There is a love between Father and Son that has nothing to do with any thought of creation. Created things are not part of this Love or the Fellowship taking place inside of it.

Yet consider Jesus’ immense DESIRE. This wanting of Jesus being expressed to the Father is found entirely inside of this Fellowship utterly separate from a creation coming through the speaking of Jesus. Jesus wants us with Him there – in a place that has nothing to do with creation, including a created heaven.

From Source to Appearance. Now it is evident by the words “that the world may know” that God wants us inside of creation, for we are His entrance into being seen and known. Nonetheless, by Jesus’ desire, we are also in a place [Father] and possess a Fellowship and Love that nothing created, heaven and earth, can know.

We are children birthed out from God by Jesus’ desire. This means that being created is our second condition, the outward effect and appearance, whereas being with Jesus inside of God is our first condition, our source and our cause.

A God-Love. That the love with which You loved Me might be inside of them.

Clearly, this has NOTHING to do with “unmerited favor” or “unconditional love.” This is separate-from-creation LOVE. Merit and condition have no meaning here. This is the Love of divine Fellowship.

We must HEAR Jesus say to us that the same Love He enjoys with the Father, separate from any Word of creation, is INSIDE OF us. That the Father LOVES us just as He loves Jesus. Beyond us, yes, but we BELIEVE!

The Jesus Secret Box. ~ My dear one, look straight into Me, for just as I am inside of you as all that you are, so you also have leaned your head against My breast. I want you with Me, My dear one, here inside of the Father, inside of Our completion together, inside of Our love. I want you with Me with a greater wanting than all the fire of the universe. Yet towards you My wanting is always gentle and kind. Come into Me always, here inside of Father and know the Father with Me. Join with Us always in Our Love together. Join with Us always in Our sweet Fellowship and with your brothers and sisters, yet far from all else. Share My glory with Me. ~

Our Response. The “Ask and Believe” box serves us as steps of faith into the knowledge of God. In the last two pages, however, we went beyond the parameters of the “Ask and Believe” box as we spoke directly to Jesus and then to the Father. In the same way, the other two boxes on the page, “Completion” and “Divine Fellowship” will be our response to Jesus and to the Father regarding what Jesus has spoken into us.

Jesus is taking us into a place deep inside of God where we simply KNOW the Father and nothing else.

Made Perfect in One. That they might be made perfect in one (NKJV).

I want to talk about four words: one and oneness, perfection and completion.
Hear, Oh Israel, the Lord thy God is One (Moses).
There is One God, the Father (Paul).
That they might know You, the One True God (Jesus).

God is not “three”; God is ONE. But then we see that the word “one” has two meanings as God uses it. First, it means One God, the Father, a PERSON. Then it means two as one and many as one.

Distinction of Person. There is no such thing as Love if there is no distinction of person. This is why I have nothing to do with the word “oneness.” I have not found people who are into “the divine” who humble themselves to KNOW the Father. Instead, I see little more than a religious fascination with self. Indeed, a so-called “love” without distinction of persons is nothing more than psychopathic narcissism, that is, a worship of self even while denying the existence of others.

I cannot love you unless I humble myself beneath of you and lift you up inside of the highest regard for you.

Coming to “Completion.” The problem with the word “perfect” is that it has two opposing definitions, God’s definition and a Satanic human definition. Satanic human perfection is an outward tyranny that destroys everyone caught in its grip. God’s perfection shows itself in all the messiness of being silly humans. God’s perfection is unacceptable to most humans, that’s why they killed Jesus.

That brings us to the word “completion,” which is just the best word in every way for us to use. It has no religious history, and it imparts God’s meaning to us.

The Context. What we want here, however, is the meaning of the word “made complete” in the specific context of John 17:20-23.

It is not for these, only, that I ask, but also for those who believe into Me through their word, that all might be one, just as You, Father, are inside of Me and I inside of You, that they also might be inside of Us, that the world might believe that You sent Me. The glory which You have given Me, I have given them, that they might be one just as We are one; I inside of them, and You inside of Me, that they might be brought to full completion inside of one, that the world might know that You sent Me, and have loved them in just the same way that You have loved Me.

An Unending Increase. Again, this is just way too much, far beyond our present understanding, pointing to an unending increase of knowing God. Even the topic of “completion” requires an entire Symmorphy text just to be introduced.

I want to look briefly at only two things in this passage, first this wondrous realization that we dwell inside of that which is God, that which has nothing to do with creation, and that we dwell inside of creation just as much, making God known to all. Second, I want to look at one meaning of “inside of one.”

Uncreated into Creation. That the world might believe – that the world might know.

It is clear from Jesus’ example and from many Scriptures that creation cannot know God except through HUMAN firstfruits. These humans who make God known must be an integral part of creation, known by all created things. BUT – God Himself cannot know creation except that these same humans are known by Him inside Himself, inside of the Love and fellowship shared between Jesus and the Father, completely separate from creation.

And all we can do with this reality right now is realize it.

Inside of One. Another thing that is clear in Jesus’ words is that He is speaking of many together as one. That is not the only meaning of “one,” but it is a definite and large part of what “one” means. Jesus is speaking of us together, being together inside this incredible uncreated place of fellowship and love between Father and Son.

I have attempted to set before us at times the fellowship shared between the firstfruits, each one of whom is just like the Lord Jesus Christ, something I have not yet known. There is inside of our fellowship together that which is uncreated, that which is only Father and Son.

Completion. We see now that completion is found in two places. There is a completion of source – inside of God, that is, our completion. And there is a completion of appearance – inside of creation, that is, God’s completion.

~ Lord Jesus, I am with You inside of our Father. My Father, I visit with You daily inside of Jesus. You have brought me into You and made me a part of Your fellowship together. I am complete inside of You, my Father and my life. Lord Jesus, I possess Your glory; I walk as one with all who belong to You. I am together with my brothers and sisters inside of Your togetherness with Father. ~

~ Father, You have brought me to full completion inside of Your love for Jesus separate from all created things. Yet I am also inside of creation and am known by the world. As the people of the world see Your love for Jesus inside of me, they know that You sent Jesus unto them. The world believes and gives thanks. Oh Father, you are become complete inside of me and my brethren; You are known through our God-love together. ~

Fellowship. All I can do is put words on paper, for these things are entirely beyond me. Nonetheless, I believe.

That you also might have fellowship [koinonia] with us, and truly our fellowship is with and among the Father and His Son, Jesus Christ (1 John 1:3). – This fellowship is personal to each one of us, AND it is a fellowship shared by us together.

The essence of God’s expression, then, is koinonia-fellowship-communion. God fellowships; therefore Jesus is – and we inside of Jesus. – “and there I will visit with you.”

A Normal Human. There is nothing more normal and human than to visit with God, inside your own heart and on an ongoing basis. Jesus makes you well able to visit with God and God with you. We are not just inside of the Father, but even more, we are inside of His Fellowship.

There are three inside this conversation – you, the Father, and the Son. And there are many inside this conversation – all of us together, the Father, and the Son. Life is knowing God AND knowing God together.

And We Also. Here is the meaning of “And we also” inside the experiences of Completion. As I know myself inside the Fellowship of Father and Son, sharing with them as a fully recognized participant, so I extend that same knowing of Fellowship out over each one of my brothers and sisters in Christ and out over all of the Church together.

I acknowledge that you are part of this same Fellowship WITH me regardless. Thus I walk in the knowing of a continual bond of fellowship and friendship with all who belong to Jesus.

Divine Fellowship. ~ God, my Father, Your sweet fellowship with Jesus inside Yourself separate from any thought of creation is wondrous beyond my comprehension, yet I know that You have brought me into Yourself with Jesus and made me part of that same beautiful fellowship. Father, I visit with You daily, moment by moment, in the sweet communion of our Devoted Spirit. Our every step together comes out from Your divine Fellowship that I share with You, Jesus, and my brethren. Father, I am inside of Your knowing of Yourself; I am inside of Your tender regard for Your Son who gave everything to win all Your desire. Father, Jesus is Your expression towards me; it is You who WANTS me. Father, what am I, that You would visit with me every moment inside of a life shared together? I know who I am, my Father; I am Yours. ~

Entirely of God. Nothing inside this fellowship is of our own human performance. Every part of the energeoing that accomplishes our place there is entirely of God. Yet, to our amazement, He includes us utterly. We converse with God and with one another without effort.

When we first started saying, “Rivers of Spirit flow out from me,” we were speaking entirely through faith, with no real knowing of our reality. Now we know just how much this living and continuous flow of Spirit Word is always joining us together and always our continual Communion with all that is God.

Reading for Next Time. The next lesson is titled “The Path of the Atonement.” I hope soon to have the remainder of John completed in the near-final draft of the JSV. Read Chapter 18 for next time. Our purpose will be to highlight the things John includes inside of our larger knowledge of what’s really happening here, particularly from Paul. We then want to take the things John mentions and tie them into his larger theme in his gospel.

“Into this I have been born, and for this I have come into the cosmos, that I may bear witness to the truth. Everyone being of the truth hears My voice” (rough JSV).

Let’s Pray Together. Our prayer this time is metamorphy, that is, spending time together inside the Fellowship of Father and Son and then extending that same communion out over all the Church in completion.

“Lord Jesus, You have brought us into Your fellowship with our Father and made Father part of our lives. Lord Jesus, You have spoken the Love of our Father into us that we might share Your completion. Lord Jesus, here inside this sweet fellowship between us and Father, we are just like You, born out from God, and just like You, Lord Jesus, God is made known through us.

“Father, we visit with You inside of Jesus, inside Your presence. Father, You share every moment of our lives with us in intimate participation.

“Yet Father, we cannot forget our brethren, Your Jerusalem, all who belong to Jesus in heaven and earth, for each one is here with us in this devoted Communion just as much. Your Church, Your people, Father, are complete here inside of You and You are complete through their love together, though they know it not.

“Father, the world does not believe until Your Church believes. Let our faith in You be the faith of all. Let our metamorphy with Jesus be the transformation of all. Father, let Your kingdom come; let Your desire be known to all creation. Glorify Your Church, in Jesus name.”