12. Our Dying Bodies Shared with God

Let us approach [everything inside the Most Devoted] with a true heart, in full assurance of faith; having our hearts sprinkled clean from an evil consciousness; and having our bodies washed with pure water (Hebrews 10:22).

A voice came to Peter, “Rise, Peter, kill, and eat.” But Peter said, “Not so, Lord! For I have never eaten anything common or unclean.” And a voice spoke to him again the second time, “What God has cleansed you must not call common” (Acts 10:13-15)

I encourage you, brothers and sisters, through the favors and compassions of God, to present your bodies a living offering, devoted to God and well-pleasing, for this is your reasonable service and worship (Romans 12:1).

Now, I rejoice in sufferings for your sake, and I am filling up that which is lacking of the travailing pressures of Christ in my flesh for the sake of His Body, which is the Church (Colossians 1:24).

We are always carrying the death of Jesus in our body, so that the life of Jesus should also become visible inside of our body. For we the living are always being traded into death through Jesus, so that the life of Jesus also may be made visible inside of our dying flesh (2 Corinthians 4:10-11).

There is a principle in Biblical Hermeneutics that says that you cannot build a doctrine on only one verse, that there must be at least a few verses working together to establish something as the Truth. That restriction is not wrong; consider the Mormons who practice “baptism for the dead” based on one impossible-to-understand line from 1 Corinthians 15. God does require more than one witness.

The Ruling Verses, however, existing inside the Tree of Life, Rule, even by themselves, because by seeing as God sees, we discover that so many verses are speaking of the same thing, verses we never understood before.

And so to Colossians 1:24, a strange and almost solitary verse, we add 1 John 3:16. By this we have known Love, in that Jesus set forth His soul for us, for our sakes; and we also are committed to setting forth our souls for the sake of our brothers and sisters.
1 John 3:16 is the kind of verse that, even if it stood all by itself, still, it has the power to bring every other verse in the Bible under its meaning. Hebrews 1:3 possesses that same unique power, “Bringing forth, carrying, and sustaining all things by His power-filled Word.”

“Rightly dividing the Word of Truth” is not a mental ability or construct, but it comes only out from knowing the Father inside of the Spirit.

My point is this. I have assembled enough verses to make some definitive assertions.

Yet these assembled verses, found inside of 1 John 3:16, go out from the power of that great Turn Around, having seated us upon the very Mercy Seat of God inside of the Most Devoted Place, now sharing with Jesus His sufferings for His Church inside our own flesh.

And going out, we discover by them a great mystery, a secret hidden throughout the entire Bible, a Glory so profound, so all-encompassing, that every other verse in the Bible is swept into the same wondrous meaning. We no longer see just a few proofs, but thousands.

Here is that secret. – God gave us our dying bodies for one purpose only, that God might come through us as Salvation into our world. Our FLESH is for the fulfillment of the Father’s Desire.

What we want to know is what that means for us and how it works. We must know these things, for we know that our Father does nothing through us except with our full participation, synergeoing with Him.

By this we know Love, in that Jesus carried us inside Himself all the way through death and into LIFE. “Here am I, Father, I and all the children whom You have given Me. Not one is missing, I hold them all, here inside my Heart.”

And we also are committed to carrying our brothers and sisters inside our hearts all the way through death and into LIFE. “Here we are, Father, with all those dear ones whom you have brought into our lives. Not one is missing, for we hold them all, here inside our hearts.”

It is out from this entire way of thinking concerning every part of our lives, that we bring into the same picture our two lines from Romans 8. –  Not only that, but even we personally, possessing the firstfruit of the Spirit, we also groan inside our own persons, eagerly expecting the placement and setting forth as sons, that is, the redemption of our body. – In the same way, the Spirit also joins as help together with our weakness, that is, personally seizes hold of our need as our help; for we are not aware of the things that are necessary for us to pray, but the Spirit personally brings us in line with Father for the sake of others, with inexpressible groanings.

Two groanings, going in two directions, yet always one together.

One final line. – To those who receive to seize hold of Jesus, He gives the authority and right to be sons birthed out from God, even to those believing into His name (John 1:12).

A right is not actually something granted to you by another. Yes, it is a Door opened to us by Jesus, but a right is something one lives inside of without moving. A right is inherent inside our own persons.

I have the RIGHT to be a son birthed out from God. I take my RIGHT, to call every moment of my entire life, past, present, and future, as God with me for the sake of others. And out from that right, I exercise the right also to call “groaning” to be every emotion and every pain I have ever experienced inside of and caused by my dying body, no matter how that suffering came to be. It is my right.

When that brother spoke those words that caused me such pain then, pain that continues in full and in tears until now, that pain in that moment and every moment since is GOOD, for God my Father shares it with me for the sake of this dear brother. Whether “I” like the brother or not does not come into the picture. Jesus and I, through the suffering of our Flesh, one Flesh together, carry him inside our hearts all the way through death and into LIFE.

Why does God need our dying bodies? Why can’t He just save through us by our running around declaring mighty things, waving our hands in the air, and kaboom- miracles everywhere?

That’s an easy answer. – By this we KNOW Love.

The entire passage is Hebrews 2:9-18, all of which is important, and inside of which is “Here am I, and the children whom You have given Me.” I will include only 9 & 18. – But we see Jesus, for a brief while having been made as one lower than angels, through the suffering of death, who has been crowned with glory and honor, so that by grace coming out from God, He might eat up death for the sake of all. – For since He himself has suffered, having been tested [by evil], He is able to rescue actively and completely those who are being tested.
And again in Hebrews 4. – For we do not have a High Priest who is unable to share the same passion with our weaknesses, because He was tempted, according to all and in exactly the same way as we are, yet without ever falling short or disconnecting from God.

To this we add Matthew 16:18. On this rock I will build My church, and the gates of hades shall not prevail against it.

The only way Jesus could burst through the gates of our hades, our psychotic hatred of Him for no reason whatsoever, is by having carried us inside His own dying body all the way through.

But understand this, opening my hades to Jesus, that He might come into every avenue of my soul, that He might turn me around, that He might turn a lifetime of ten million pain-filled moments into God with me for others, this has been no small task for my Savior, no matter how capable He is. It has taken Him now 61 years of gentle tenderness to turn my hades into God’s Highway.

One thing only enabled Him to accomplish such a wondrous thing – He shared my pain for real.

AND WE ALSO – for the sake of our brothers and sisters.

When I go with David into Jesus’ very human soul upon the cross, in Psalm 22, I see a man as confused and as torn apart as I have ever been. Even if it was for one brief moment only, I see a Jesus who thought the same as I have, that all this agony was proof that he was a “worm and no man,” that he was a failure and a loser, and far worse than that, he thought, for one brief moment, that it meant that God was far away from him.

Then I see something else, something beyond all beyond all, I see a man who takes all that pain and confusion and gives it to me and to God, that we might have a Way to come together inside of His broken soul.

And I know, in my heart, that as this same Jesus shares all with me, so He and I together can also do the same for you.

By this alone the world will know that God sent Jesus into us, that God is, in fact, Love.


I realized, in working with the JSV, that there is a distinction between Jesus offering His dying body to God as ONE unlimited SACRIFICE for sins, and our offering of our dying bodies, not as a repetitive “sacrifice,” but as an offering to God.

In keeping that distinction fully in mind, however, we are free then to understand what God is doing through us by considering all the pictures He gives us in Scriptures.

Therefore be just like God, as beloved children, and walk inside of love in just the same way that Christ also loved us and gave Himself to us for our sakes, an offering and a sacrifice to God, into a sweet-smelling aroma (Ephesians 5:1-2). – In just the same way. – With the aroma of His knowledge being made visible through us in every place (2 Corinthians 2:14).

I want to talk about my older brother, Franz. Franz never did anything of actual hurt towards me, except for one time when he spoke harsh and condemning nonsense at me. Yet I was walking closely enough with the Lord at that time, to let it pass on by. But when I was younger, I was an aggravating little boy, though not by intention, and Franz was an aggravated older brother.

Then, in his older years, Franz came under the same pressure of mental and emotional awfulness that has assailed me, yet he did not have the knowledge of Jesus inside that I have known in order to stay free from the awfulness. And so he slowly descended into an accusing spirit, accusing many family members of many things, not publicly, but still. He became a grief that we did not understand.

In the early years of writing and sending out this Christ Our Life letter, I had purposed in my heart, even in setting myself together with God, that when the Lord Jesus had completely sealed me into being just like Him, by Life swallowing up death, that I would ask God first for LIFE for my brother, Franz, that I would have the tender kindness to enter into his hades and to draw my brother, whom I always highly regarded, into joy and goodness.

But that intention changed just a bit a few years ago when Franz came to me in a dream, out from the heavens, and in great sobbing tears plead with me, “Daniel, please pray for my children.” I have honored my brother in my heart since. I include his children with my own.

There are two principles of God that are known by an electrical universe. One is called morphic resonance, that when something out from God first comes to one, through great difficulty and travail, once that thing of God has entered the human experience, it becomes available to many, more easily and more quickly. The other is called scalability, that what takes place at an atomic level corresponds to the same thing at a cosmic level. As one of the prophets said, “Do not despise the day of small things.”

In other words, that which seems small in our own lives, given to the Father, as the little boy gave his lunch to Jesus, so that little thing, broken and blessed, becomes overflowing abundance for multitudes.

Inside of these two absolute qualities of God, we give our weak and dying body to the Father, not that He might make us “great,” for He is free to do as little or as much as He wishes. But we do covenant with God regarding those dear ones whom He has made part of our lives.

These two principles work together in a third direction as well, which I hope to expand more on in the next letter. That third direction is this. As I give this present moment and this present pain to Father for the sake of others, so my giving reaches out, by my RIGHT, to include with it every similar moment of pain in my entire life, making all of it to be, with Jesus, my groaning and the Spirit’s groaning together, for the sake of this one.

And so I give this present moment to the Father, whatever might be in it, whether pain or joy, whether agony or contentment, that through our shared togetherness, the Devoted Spirit might go forth to my own children and to my brother’s children, and all who belong to them, that the knowledge of God might fill their souls, that God might keep them.

I know that I have brought some peace to my brother’s broken soul, even now inside the heavens.

Yet even more than for those individuals whom God has made part of my family, I also turn every agony towards the Church. Now that I have greatly reduced, at least, vacating into pleasant daydreams, I instead direct whatever I might be feeling, towards God through me for the sake of His entire Church. It doesn’t matter what strange agony it might be, it can be only God with me for His Church.

Yet still, this remains very personal for me, for I weep over my children. I see that they long to know True Christ Community, but it’s just not there. I know what it is, at least by taste, but I cannot give it to them. And I have wept before God, from the time our first son was in his mother’s womb, that somehow, God will fill up that lack of mine for the sake of my children, that they would KNOW the Glory of God inside His True Church living now upon the earth.

Then I realize that Moses did the same as I. In fact, Moses’ prayer for his older brother, Aaron, was simple, but his travail for the entirety of Israel was very great.

I looked, and behold, you had sinned against the Lord your God—had made for yourselves a molded calf! You had turned aside quickly from the way which the Lord had commanded you. Then I took the two tablets and threw them out of my two hands and broke them before your eyes. And I fell down before the Lord, as at the first, forty days and forty nights; I neither ate bread nor drank water, because of all your sin which you committed in doing wickedly in the sight of the Lord, to provoke Him to anger. For I was afraid of the anger and hot displeasure with which the Lord was angry with you, to destroy you. But the Lord listened to me at that time also. And the Lord was very angry with Aaron and would have destroyed him; so I prayed for Aaron also at the same time (Deuteronomy 9:16-20).

Notice the simplicity of the one, “I prayed for Aaron,” and the great travail of the other, the entirety of God’s people. These two must always go together; our simple prayer for those close to us and our larger travail for the sake of the entire Church. I hope to expand on this in the next letter. Here, let’s bring in a verse that might actually confirm this principle of God.

Our Lord… has come into being according to the power of an indissoluble, inseparable, and endless life… according to the order of Melchizedek (Hebrews 7:14-17 – reduced).

The Greek word is typically translated “endless,” but, although endless is included, the primary meaning is indissoluble and inseparable – LIFE.

We can see that part of the meaning inside of an indissoluble LIFE is what we have just laid out, morphic resonance, one life opening the way for many, a small human life following the same pattern of a life larger than the universe, a life that reaches out from this moment to include all other moments, a life that, in giving itself to Jesus becomes life for many, a life praying for one, also praying for all.

Then consider again these lines, for they have begun to take on a wonder.

That the life of Jesus should also become visible inside of our body. – That the life of Jesus also may be made visible inside of our dying flesh. – The One who raised Christ out from the dead will also continuously and actively give life to your dying bodies through His Spirit dwelling inside of you.

The truth is, we have never had the slightest clue what these lines actually mean. They seem to make no sense for our present reality. What on earth is the life of Jesus made visible in my dying flesh? I have no idea. That has never stopped me from holding 2 Corinthians 4:11 deep inside my heart for decades, however.

I think we are finally able to talk about the title of this letter – “Our Dying Bodies Shared with God.”

Life is movement within and without. Movement within is with purpose, yet involuntary; movement without is also with purpose, but directed by desire. Inside of our dying bodies is inward movement, something the Spirit just does, but “made visible” is outward, and that has to involve us, our desires shared with God.

Yet we together are God’s body, His form towards all created things. And we have never reckoned with the intense desire of God to share our dying bodies with us, through our permission, that is, our offering to Him.

Yet God’s Determination, this Flow of God that is LIFE, cannot limit Himself to us, but must Flow on out from us with purpose, and with our willing offering, using our dying bodies as His Way into winning the hearts of many.

I have many thoughts on the moment by moment giving of our flesh to God that belong in the next letter, titled “The Meaning of the Great Travail.” Yet that whole topic is movement without. We cannot move with God into our world, Kingdom, except we be first sealed into God’s Life within, which is Covenant.

So – Life within our dying bodies, Life shared with God, these bodies in all of their fleshiness, weakness, and pain, shared with God.

You see, there is ever only one moment of time that we could share with God and He with us, and that is this moment, now. And whatever is now must do, if we want to know our Father. And the most now thing we possess is our dying flesh. Thus the claim that our pain means God has forsaken us is the single greatest lie in history.  Jesus entertained the thought for a little while, but He never acted on it, in word or in deed.

Yet that lie continues even greater, for it has kept all Christians from giving to God His Doorway into showing Himself to all as Love. My dying flesh is the final Door for me to open for my Father to enter my world. This moment, this present weariness, this flash of painful memory, this physical pain, God my Father shares it fully and absolutely with me. I have no other form for God to share; there is no other symmorphy.

Yet my offering to God, a sweet smelling aroma, is always for the sake of others. Covenant must bring forth Kingdom. God and I together must carry His Church all the way through the darkness into all the Life of Christ. Passing through the Jordan is the same picture as the birthing of a child into Life. It is travail.

I must share what has taken place inside of me as I wrote this letter, specifically when I wrote about our view with David inside Jesus’ soul upon the cross.

I shared in an earlier letter the agreement Jesus and I made together, that He would mend the broken pieces of my soul, and that I would give to the Father all, including my avoidance of the present moment through daydreaming, for the sake of the Church. I also shared the recent understanding of my life-long interpretation of my agony, that it meant that something was terribly wrong with me, and, much worse, that it represented a great chasm between God and me.

Then, as I wrote this letter, it dawned on me that Jesus felt the same depths of agony for at least a couple of hours, and that he interpreted it the same as I, that God had forsaken him, and that there was something terribly wrong with him, “I am a worm and no man.” And I knew that Jesus shared fully my own confusion of soul across my entire life.

Yet I also saw that Jesus did what He has taught me to do, that He gave that same confusion of soul to the Father for the sake of others. I saw the full extent to which Jesus, this One who loves me, this One who gives Himself in trade for me, shares my same broken soul all the way through, and that it is GOOD, that it is all God with us for the sake of others.

In that moment, I felt something definite and deep merging back together again inside my soul. And I have felt that continuing in wondrous repercussion in the days since, including in my dreams. I don’t know what it means, but I am ready to be whole.

Yet here is my requirement of God. I do not receive healing until I KNOW that every moment of my pain through my whole life IS of great purpose inside of God. Now I know; now healing is acceptable to me.

By this I know Love.